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Deaths in Iraq due to Bush Bashing?

A Republican defends the Bush Administration Iraq policy stating the media and the bashing of the administration is to blame for the deaths in Iraq:

Lots of reasons why people die everyday in Iraq.  Focusing on Bashing

US leadership and running out of Iraq is a losing proposition.  You support what the terrorists support, you motivate them, you assure the future of the world to be a more dangerous place that will kill thousands of Americans, you assure that more Americans will be lost in Iraq.  American leaders/people should focus on standing with the President on all issues.  To fix that which is wrong takes working together - and even then you may not get it right - but you have hope.  There is no hope in bashing Mr. Bush and morons like Pelosi fueling the anti-America campaign.  Mistakes in Iraq will cost thousands of American lives -the most glaring mistake is the overwhelming lack of patriotism in the US --and the growing number of those that have no clue of the meaning of the word.
 
A growing threat to the world is Iran, and they see America and whatever allies we may have had as getting weaker and more divided every day (which is true).  Iran will bully the world around in the interest of power/money until all h breaks loose.  This may have been avoided by standing with the President and past presidents -especially in foreign policy.
 
One huge mistake now is the lack of funds spent on intelligence, high tech weapons & the future -with a lot of Dems in power will mean even less military spending due to funding socialism (gov control of your life).  And if any of you ever filled out a gov form, you should realize the gov is often unworthy of the trust of soc security, Medicare, medicine, education, --military too as far as that goes, etc.  so you elect the best folks for the job and pray they make good decisions. Back to the military for a second:  the only reason the world dodged nuclear destruction in the last 62 years was the US had better technology and weapons than the rest of the world.  Now that gap has closed and countries like Iran with tons of money can buy anything to blow up anything.
 
I guess part of the bottom line is -- if you are not talking about answers with a good strategy to fix the Iraq situation --and esp if you don't know anything about the Mideast mindset, -you should stay out of the kitchen -- unless you just enjoy paying homage to those that have a game plan for the destruction of America.
 
Domestic dems:  you guys say things which are pretty typical.  Like gov control of Medical is a cure-all and is not ommunist/dictatorship/socialism.  gov controls are communist/dictatorship/socialism.  Cute to paint it some other color, but you are wrong.
 
All this ignorance over energy being the bad guy, -you folks are in for such a shock as big oil quits making stuff for you (a fanatic democratic position).  Also a republican position in the case of ethanol -  Bolling of Fast Money says ethanol uses 30% more energy to make than a regular gallon of gasoline.  Obvious to anyone with an ounce of research that ethanol will create inflation, bad environmental consequences, etc.  This could be avoided somewhat by lifting all tariffs on ethanol/sugar.  Jim Cramer is pretty much a strong hate Bush guy, -but he also makes it clear democrats are socialistic pigs.
 
And you can bash CNBC, Reuters, Bloomberg, etc.   Fact is, I have seen CNN, FOX, local, national, talk shows, etc. -and you can often get real news with less prejudice on financial channels.  The envir, weather, global politics, global economics, fed, employment, fear and greed, -- it's all right there on the surface for all to see.
 
All this ignorance over big oil being the bad guy, you folks are in for such a shock as big oil quits making stuff for you --had to repeat this line, because you folks just don't get it.  Alternate fuels are the future -not becuz we can or know how -but becuz big oil is running out.  And anyone that opens their mouth about pollution -bashing America -are just plain full of themselves and have not enough knowledge to speak.  America led in pollution for a period because we were the fastest growing economy with resources, -now we are coming in last in all of those categories.  American coal plants are being built or refitted with the best technologies available -not true of China/India/etc.  American pollution going forward is much less of a threat to the envir than foreign countries.   And any polyanna crap of America leading the way by shutting down coal plants is just polyanna crap - China and others don't give a rat's butt what America does when it comes to taking over world power and economics.
-Roger, MD

Comments:

You really need to have an awareness of the history of the Middle East on British and US imperialistic actions to truly have a grasp of what is happening over there. The British broke up that place after WW1 and made many efforts to grab the oil from under their feet. This is about their resources. It is not our oil. It is their oil.

I am not sure what is so hard for people to grasp about that. We have made every effort possible to stop them from nationalizing their own resource. They have no desire to have multinational corporations coming in and stealing their resources.  In '53 we ousted the Iranian leader because he wanted to take control of the oil and not hand it over to USA and the Brits. Now had I been the leader I would have done the same thing.

Just because we have huge militaries and large banks we think we can take whatever we want.  Now Iran wants to be an independent nation and not just another whore for our interest. The world is riddled with nations that have taken a huge screwing for the World Bank, IMF, WTO and other agencies that trap them in large debt and force them to privatize their resources for our benefit. These people are fighting back. One of the reasons China and India are doing so well is because they never heeded any economic restructuring advice from the WTO and the US.  Iraq was not an easy steal and the insurgents have fought back. What else would you expect? You really think that US has these benevolent plans of sharing with the Iraqi people? History would argue with that.

You can go on and on about communist/terrorist ideas bust unless you understand the basic dynamics of power of our desire to control the resources than it means nothing.

I was really impressed by the 60 minutes story about France's nuclear power. I had no idea you could recycle the waste. That has always been my greatest concern for nuclear power.  The American that talked about using graphite balls and stopping the fear of meltdown was very cool.

The thing we have to do is change our consumption patterns. It's not just about finding alternatives to oil but also changing our behaviors.
-LiveReal Moderator

Simmer down, bro --

A growing number of us think the conflicting aspirations of the peoples of (what Americans named) the Middle East will never be resolved at the point of a gun.

So we think it's foolish to keep wasting our children's lives and mortgaging their futures on a failed and immoral foreign policy.

Some of us even dare to consider that it may be capitalism run amok that festered the current situation.  We have taken steps to restrain it before --  Even including Republicans:  E.g., Teddy Roosevelt (when not promoting imperialism himself) helped formulate laws that for decades almost took the spoils system out of government hiring and contracting.  That has almost completely been undone by the current Bush, leading to the excesses of his war-mongering, including unmatched graft (e.g., Halliburton, all the disappeared greenbacks thrown at the Iraq problems in the heady early days of "Victory" and "Liberation") and the borrowing of unprecedented amounts from China to pay for this obscene war.  (I'm in a position to know that the political appointee problems of Justice and FEMA are rampant throughout government now -- and we ignore at the peril of our democracy a Supreme Court apparently crafted by this president to strike the Bill of Rights from the Constitution.)

I happen to think that continuing on our current course will surely lead to an economic collapse on a par with the Soviet Union's collapse when they bullheadedly kept pouring their children's lives and resources into their quagmire in Afghanistan.  (Don't look now, but we're not exactly on solid ground there either.)

(Pardon my Germanic sentence construction.)
A better way has to be found.
--Ben, TN

 

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